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Post by Flawless Bones on Sept 2, 2011 5:00:47 GMT -8
While Heath Ledger did a great job with the role of Joker, I liked Jack Nicholson's Joker better.
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Post by Sinful Orchid on Sept 2, 2011 23:29:53 GMT -8
Heath Ledger for me. People say that people only liked Heath's Joker because they made a big deal about it his death...maybe in some cases, that's true, but not for me. Heath's Joker was very creepy, cool, and funny. I like Jack's Joker too, but if you noticed in Tim Burton's Batman movies, the bad guys always had an accident that made them crazy...I can't remember (well, I kept spacing out because it was so boring to me) what happened in Batman Forever, but Prison Ivy, Mr. Frost, Bane, Catwoman, and the Joker had something happened to them to make them crazy (or moreso).
In Nolan's movies, the villains are already crazy. You have no idea what happened to the Joker. You just knew he was batshit insane, and Ledger nailed it.
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Post by "Wildfox" Meta S. Foxx on Sept 3, 2011 0:51:30 GMT -8
I can definitely attest to that. And to explain how the villains worked in the Tim Burton/Joel Shumacher movies.
Joker (Tim Burton Batman) - was dropped into a vat of chemicals (by Batman no less) before getting shot in the face by a ricochet from his own pistol, suffered severe skin and nerve damage (hence the surgery scene)...thus turning him completely nuts
Catwoman - her boss pushes her out of a twelve-story window, literally falls to her death only to be revived by cats, and is driven crazy once she returns to her apartment listening to an automated ad message from her employer who tried to kill her
Two-Face - it's explained about a fourth of the way in that while in a trial, the person he was prosecuting was plotting to kill him with acid, and although Batman tried to save him, the assailant threw the acid in his face causing damage to half of it...he blames Batman for it all and thus is driven insane to kill him
Riddler - yeah, even this can be explained...he makes an invention that can read peoples' minds and tried to pass it off to Bruce Wayne, who rejects the idea stating the famous line "it just raises too many questions"...this leads him to kill off one of Wayne's board members, and thus begins his insanity trip
Mr. Freeze - this one barely makes any sense from Shumacher's standpoint, but it is explained that during an experiment to try and save his wife, something went wrong and he was forced into some icy chemicals that caused mutations within him to only adapt to extreme cold temperatures...thus beginning his insanity trip
Poison Ivy - worked at a lab funded by Wayne Tech but headed by a scientist that was clearly out of his mind...she discovers he's creating super soldiers (in this case, the movie's adaptation of Bane) and she's not going along with the idea, which leads to her boss shoving her into her bio chemical toxins with the intent of killing her, that of course did not happen as the toxins gave her new abilities including aloe for skin and venomous lips...thus beings her insanity trip
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Post by scorpzero on Sept 3, 2011 11:05:09 GMT -8
heath's joker is badass!
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Post by Fulgore-23 on Sept 8, 2011 16:07:11 GMT -8
I don't understand why you put Mark Hamill up there. He was only voice actor. anyways, I voted Ledger too. RIP man
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Post by "Wildfox" Meta S. Foxx on Sept 10, 2011 19:07:54 GMT -8
Hey, even voice acting still counts. Besides, aside from Luke Skywalker, that's Hamil's other most famous role that everyone remembers him from...and he just doesn't do it in the animated series. Remember Batman: Arkham Asylum? That was him in that, too (actually one of the better performances of the character), as well as the upcoming Batman: Arkham City.
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Post by Jade Toast on Oct 4, 2011 6:14:36 GMT -8
In Nolan's movies, the villains are already crazy. You have no idea what happened to the Joker. You just knew he was batshit insane, and Ledger nailed it. I totally agree! I was one of the few that didn't think he could pull off the Joker but I was wrong.
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